I have learned, as a podcast host, that some episode interviews are question and response, and some conversations are more…intimate. My episode here with Ululani Shiraishi is decidedly the latter. Ululani gave me a gift during this interview, a phrase I will use in my life going forward: Working at the edge of your seat. She comes from a place of part frenzy crazy, and part deliberate intentional. And she is always, always working at the edge of her seat. Ululani is a Kamehameha Schools Maui campus middle school language arts teacher who is deep into SEL, Hawaiian culture and trans-disciplinary teaching and learning. Editing services provided by DG Sound Creations.